As part of our trip in October, we would like to see Matsumoto + Kamikochi and/or Alpine Route from Tateyama. We would really like to enjoy the area and spend several days there. Now I\\\’m just a little bit 🙂 confused about how to go about it.
We are coming in from Kyoto. Should we, for example, stay 2 nights at Tateyama and then transfer to Kamikochi and stay at a hotel there? Or vice versa? What would be the most optimal plan?
The easiest way to travel from Kyoto would be to first take the Ltd. Exp. Thunderbird train to Kanazawa, then change over to the Hokuriku Shinkansen and travel to Toyama (about 2.5 hours). The Tateyama Kurobe Alpine Route is about an hour away from Toyama Station by train.
While in Toyama, you can also take a day trip to see Shirakawa-go, a traditional village of thatched roof houses in the gassho-zukuri style (Bus information here). If you visit Shirakawa-go, you can spend the night in Toyama and do the Tateyama Kurobe Alpine route the following day.
After the Tateyama Kurobe Alpine Route, you’ll arrive in Omachi City in Nagano Prefecture. Take the Nagano-Omachi line bus to Shinano-Omachi Station (30 min.), then take the Oito line train to Matsumoto Station (57 min.).
I hope that helps answer your question. Let me know if I can help with anything else.
Hi Blair, thanks so much for your answer. I do not know what happened with my earlier reply – it was not published. Anyhow, this information is awesome. Thank you.
I’m glad I could help!
Hi Blair, we suddenly ran into a couple of minor “problems” and had to alter the itinerary a bit. Could you please see if what we have now is optimal for the given time of the year?
We arrive in Tokyo and start the itinerary from there (October 2-7).
Then we proceed to Kyoto (October 7-12).
Following that, we planned to do the Alpine route but had to cancel – one of us has a problem with cable cars… So from Kyoto, we decided to go straight to Kamikochi & Matsumoto (October 12-16) and here is where the problem lies.
It turns out that October 12-14 is a national holiday so we will most probably find ourselves hiking with lots of people who will be on vacation during that time. I’m wondering if there is another place we could visit and stay over during October 12-14 that would be less crowded but interesting and pleasurable to visit?
Thanks a lot for your advice!
These areas are both less busy than Kamikochi and should also have autumn leaves around that time due to their high elevation.
If you visit Tsugaike Nature Park in Hakuba, I also recommend taking a look at the Hakuba Mountain Harbor Terrace at Iwatake and the Happo Pond hike at Hakuba Happo One. Evergreen Outdoor Center also offers guided outdoor activities in the area.
If you visit Shigakogen, you can stay in the Yudanaka/Shibu Onsen area, famous for its hot springs, and also see the Ryuo SORA terrace and Snow Monkey Park. There are many hiking routes around Shigakogen, among which the Onuma Pond course is most popular.
I hope that gives you some ideas for your trip planning.
God bless you! 🙂